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Poseywg
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:34 am    Post subject: Would this work? Reply with quote

OK, here is a hypothetical question: Could you take an Olds Ambassaor cornet with a bore of .468 and make a large bore Olds trumpet out of it using other Olds/Reynolds parts, ala the conversion done on Dave's Bach Trumpet Page (www.electrotheremin.com/bach.html)?

For all those who would say "why?", there is no reason that will satisfy other than just to see if it can be done. It is truly a gearhead exercise, but I wanted to see if anyone who knows Ambassadors can think of a problem big enough to scupper the project. I have done some preliminary measuring and it seems like it would work.

Anyone have any thoughts?

Bill
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be very interesting to see and I believe it could be done. I'll let some of the more experienced players give their opinions though since I'm know virtually nothing about building trumpets. Good luck though.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I thought that given the popularity of the Ambassadors this might be a neat project. This may end up being an academic exercise, but since they are so plentiful it might be fun to play around with.

I spoke with Clay at Centex Brass to see if he thought it feasible, and his concern is the fact that a cornet's tubing is continually (sort of) getting larger, so where does it stobecomes the question.

If it all happens I'll let everyone know!

Bill
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lookin' forward to it!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I found out this won't work. The trumpet and cornet are too disimilar in height at the valve cluster. In addition, the curve of the bell tube and leadpipe/tuning slide are also very different. I guess the only way to make this kind of hybrid is to use Bach horns! I don't think I am going to be cutting up my Strad anytime soon, but my hat is off to Dave for making it work.

Ah, well, it was a good mental exercise.......

Bill
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:24 pm    Post subject: It sure could be done Reply with quote

It can be done...why dont you use a different bell and go frankenhorn on that cornets AZZ...I got some bell's for sale...Calicchio, Bach...etc.



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